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Okay, this picture has been roaming the internetz for a while, I drew it a couple weeks ago (as you can see from my signature, still indicating March '13) and uploaded it on Facebook first, but I liked it and thought I'd upload it here, too :)

When I submitted the test page for Africa I received loads of useful pieces of advice, one in particular, which many of you suggested, was to make Africa and Chui more different, because they looked too much alike.

Well, I've been working on that ever since. Can you tell Africa and Chui apart in this picture?
Please be frank, I don't get offended if you say you don't! XD It's very important for me that readers manage to distinguish characters, especially if the two main characters are so similar.

I also added a like of rounded spots on Africa's pelt, since I received the suggestion to vary her spot pattern a bit. How do you like it? ^_^

Once again, thank you SO much for your constant support and critique! It helps me a lot :D

And once again... again XD

Africa and Chui are LEOPARDS. Not Cheetahs. Not Jaguars.
I know that cheetahs aren't this bulky. Because these two AREN'T cheetahs! XD

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Africa on the left, Chui on the right~ :D

Great Job!

Buttt..... I can definitely tell that Chui is a guy because he is bulky which is good but I think you should make Africa look a bit more...lady-like? Cuz I mean...She IS a girl right? Right??! ;A;
They're cheetahs also correct? So they should be a bit more..leaner? More stream-lined?
NO OFFENSE, their designs are SUPERB, don't get me wrong...but maybe a bit more thinner and less bulky? Lions would probably be that big, that rotund (?) but I think cheetahs are always going to look thinner and more...flat.
Just my opinion, 'tis all :D

The coloring is beautiful and I love their different tail ends! Such a brilliantly unique twist! :D :heart: :heart: :heart:

But that red line irks me... :/ It's the color... maybe go for a more treacle or more orangey-yellow tone? I'm just being picky that's all. But then again, that does make a difference if you want to improve and all that.

Paws are all tip top (I can't draw them very well ;A; ) but Africa's outstretched leg, I think, needs to be slightly revised?
On the other hand, this IS just to help viewers distinguish characters and to get the feel for the design so I shouldn't be so picky xD
AND (will this ever end?!) as you do know, cheetahs are built for speed and like I mentioned early should be more stream-lined. So possibly consider narrowing the hip bones a bit?

Anatomy is lovely, as are the lines. Coloring is blended fantastically and makes the piece stand out and appear 3D and life like. I wish I could be this good! But, alas, I probably never will ^^
Overall, a totally spiffing piece of work! Be proud and keep the good work up!

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Okay, here goes my first critique. :3

To start off, I really like the designs. It's easy to tell apart who is who. Africa is a lot rounder while Chui's edges are pointed, which is a nice touch. :) It's easy to see thy're leopards (when you know you way around big cats a little :)) and their colors look perfect on them.

One detail is Africa's outstretched leg. Her paw looks a bit strage, as if it should be a bit more to the right. And (could just be me though) Africa's hind leg seems very tiny compared to her body. But that's the only thing that bugs me. Overall, a great picture from a difficult angle. :D Can't wait to see more from you Arven! ;)
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Dielushie Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2015  Student Artist
i love chui
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks!
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brandi3981 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
geez people are weird why would people mistake them for other spotty kitties i mean cheatahs have tear marks & jaguars are thicker & from SOUTH AMERICA
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I don't know :( But so many, TOO many people mistake leopards for cheetahs. I can understand mistaking them for jaguars, Out of the context of where they live (Africa/Asia vs America), it really is pretty tricky to tell a leopard from a jaguar. But leopards and cheetahs are entirely different :(
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brandi3981 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
:icokittynodplz:
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:)
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brandi3981 Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
:iconkittynodplz:
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Tomboy1403 Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Yup, they both have unique markings that defer them well apart. Great job! i''ve always loved the way ur art looks! :)
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Sweet! I'm so happy you can tell them apart^^
Aww thank you! <3
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Tomboy1403 Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Your very welcome. Great artist like u deserve it. ;)
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Aww thanks again^^
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Tomboy1403 Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Np. :D (Big Grin) 
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
^^
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GlitchyJelly Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2014  Hobbyist
i can because of the reffs you made!! before i saw them they looked the same ^^;
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I agree, they looked very similar in the first pictures :P 
I made some progress since then^^ 
Africa -Page 40 by ARVEN92
 Can you easily tell who is who in this page? :D
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GlitchyJelly Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2014  Hobbyist
Yes I can~!
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Sweet! :D I'm happy they're well differentiated now^^
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Lightfoot-Hearts Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2014
It's very easy for me to tell the two apart :D 
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm so glad it is :D It's hard to design leopards to look different XD
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Lightfoot-Hearts Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2014
I bet it is, you definitely have to rely on body shape :D 
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
True that!
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lightpelt577 Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2014   Traditional Artist
Well, I can see Chui has Curved cheek-fur, A bit like A Lynx. And he has a darker stripe down his back. He's also Bulkier and Also, Chui looks evil. His tail and paws have sharp edges to them.  Africa on the other Hand, Is More slender, and Has Green eyes instead of Amber. Her fur is smoother with less sharp edges to it. So yes, i can tell them apart. 
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks a lot! i'm glad they can be easily distinguished :)
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lightpelt577 Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2014   Traditional Artist
Yup. Art trade - Freya animated 
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:)
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lightpelt577 Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2014   Traditional Artist
balloon 
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shirax3nea Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If you wanna know my opinion...Ithink thei are absolutely perfect,especially Chui
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Aww Thank you^^
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payclo3 Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2014  Student General Artist
he is overall bigger and bulkier, maybe a bigger tail would fit him better 
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I agree! Thanks for saying that, I'll add it to his design :)
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Shadowwolf62499 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014
Will they ever have cubs together?
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Sadly no, they are truly sworn rivals :) They would never get together :)
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blackcat846 Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2013
you can tell the difference if the leopards has spots in its spots  or not if it does it's a jaguar if it doesn't its a leopard, great work by the way... and Btw I'm an expert with cats ;3 there so fluffeh! I wuv them anyways..... really good drawing
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That's correct :) You can also recognize a jaguar by the shape of its head, they have a peculiar "bump" at the base of the nape, bulging facial muscles and a big, round muzzle, while leopards are overall more square :)

Sadly, many people don't know this, and it's especially hard to tell from a drawing ;;

I love cats too! They are fantastic creatures <3
Thank you^^
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blackcat846 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2013
Your welcome ^-^
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
^^
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frostfeline Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
They are very easy to tell apart ;) Can't wait for the next pages of comic
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Aww thank you^^ More pages coming soon^^
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Shadestar32 Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I can tell them apart easily, Chui's ears, jaw, and tail are more based on angles while Africa has a much smoother, rounded anatomy form. Great work, by the way.
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh thank you a lot! I'm really happy you can tell them apart easily :D
And thanks for the watch also! :)
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Shadestar32 Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Your welcome .3.
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
^^
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synchrosen Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i love chui <3
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you! <3
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kpword Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2013  Professional Writer
They look different enough for me. Chui is angular; Africa isn't.

Very nice picture, btw.
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you so much! <3
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Amayensis Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Super ! On les distingue très bien :D
Je pense que tu pourrais peut-être réduire un peu la taille de leurs yeux, qui prennent un peu trop de place sur leur visage, je trouve x)
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Aww mais merci! <3

Et merci pour le conseil aussi! Je vais bien essayer :D
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Amayensis Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Pas de quoi, c'est un plaisir ^.^
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ARVEN92 Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:D
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